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If you’re interested in discovering new music and diving deep into the creative process, check out Song & Story. You can listen + subscribe on iTunes, Google Play, Stitcher, TuneIn, or wherever you get your podcast fix.

Since launching the podcast in 2018, I have had the most unexpectedly rewarding discussions with fellow songwriters. We’ve had in-depth conversations about life, death, racism, addiction, technology, home, grief, suffering, love lost, love found, and so much more. And each of these conversations is centered around and inspired by a single work of art. It’s truly a unique listening experience. Here’s the trailer:


Every song has a story. That’s the premise (hence, the title). I want to dive into songs that have piqued my interest over the years and learn more about them by discussing them with the artists who brought them to life. I’m following a unique format designed to give the listener an immersive experience into each episode’s featured song.


I. Introduction // Every episode will begin with a brief introduction.

II. Song // The featured song will be played in full.

III. Discussion // I’ll ask the artist about the story/stories behind the song. I’ll poke and prod and ask about specific lines, phrases, themes, metaphors, production decisions, etc. I fully anticipate each conversation veering off onto backroads and tangents — an inevitable result of our subjective experiences with art — though it will always come back around.

IV. Song (again) // Having digested and discussed the song, we’ll close each show by listening to it again with fresh ears and a new perspective.


I’m a songwriter. As such, I’m a storyteller. I know how much time, energy, and thought goes into crafting a song. Some come out quickly, in minutes. Some take days, weeks, months, even years to be fully revealed and refined. I know what each of my songs means. I know the stories behind them. Sometimes I share those stories when I’m performing, though I never quite reveal every detail; I never really tell the whole story. I’ve been traveling with my music for almost a decade. In that time, I’ve had the privilege of meeting and collaborating with some incredible songwriters.

The opportunity to meet an artist I admire and talk with them about their work is something I cherish. Contemplating a song and discussing it — the thought and intent behind it, the stories around and contained within it — is essential to valuing music as art. What a song can reveal about the human condition in all its glory, tragedy, comedy, error, absurdity, and mystery: that’s what I want to explore. You can support this project on Patreon. And you’ll get cool things for doing so. For your consideration: